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Just saw this and this would be the perfect Place to own.

Vacation places are starting to sell.

Wish I had the FRN's


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No it's not mine and I have no Idea whos it is and I don't get kickbacks.

What I do see though is the vacation places are starting to go up for sale more and more as people are needing cash so we might get to snag a SHTF place on the cheap.

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Where might Bitterfoot be, in what state/

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Southwest Montana near the Idaho border.

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Thank you kind sir, a bit too far from Florida

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That's probably around Sula, Mt. About an hour and a half south of Missoula. There is a small subdivision there with about 80 homes/lots. I looked through there once years ago, it was kind of a do-as-you-want unrestricted neighborhood. It might be somewhere else around that area, though. Good area for hunting, fishing, skiing, snowmobiling.
It it was on a decent sized lot it would sell fast.

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It is a little far for me personaly. I am looking in the Lake Pend oreille' area of Idaho. Anything to get away from the Seattle area.

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Try this link... you could search for residential or bare land...it's a direct Bonner County MLS format.

http://www.selkirkmountainrealestate...hp?mod=listall :10_1_20:

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IMHO land prices in Idaho and Montana are WAY too high for unimproved dry areas,just like AZ is overpriced. I think "romance" has driven these prices out of line. 22k for .79 of an acre 5 miles from town? you could buy 10 acres 1 mile ft.from Lake Superior in the UP.

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But it's MUCH colder there than Western Montana/Idaho. This area has low humidity and almost no wind. 90% of the land is USFS. There are few people and the demographics are much better than Michigan.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/
And there are fewer LAWS, more guns and less crime here, too.

edit: No sales tax in Montana
Michigan has 10 million people and 2 1/2 million minorities. Montana has less than a million people.

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http://www.davismountainsrealty.com/

montana is too furickin' cold, and expensive

http://www.davismountainsrealty.com/dmrjd.html

Just sayin......

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I was doing a little surfing and came across this link... http://www.daveandsave.com/prices.html I have no knowledge of them either good or bad. I do know however of a Mennonite group that builds out there.
They have a schoolbus and drive to the worksite en masse. They expect payment in cash weekly and are EXTREMELY dependable.

Just a thought.

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I'm looking at a small plot right now. The seller is offering me $1k/acre as is (mixture of pine and hardwood) or $650/acre after he clearcuts it. Anyone have numbers I can work with to decide which to go with?

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Unless it has real valuable hardwoods like walnut or really giant trees, the landowner hardly gets anything from timber companies unless the timber company has no obligations to clean up their big messes.
The problem is envisioning what the property would look like after the scalpers get done with it.
It is a good strategy to sucker the buyer into comitting to buy a piece of land before they see what it looks like after scalping.
I would either lowball an already scalped tract or buy the land with the timber and keep the timber.

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Sort of pointing out the obvious, but the timber market is in the friggin tank atm. I'm sorry I can't give dollars and cents numbers because I'm not a log purchaser but finding out those numbers should factor into your decision.

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Why would you want the land after its scalped? Either buy it with the trees, or find another tract of land.

What good is a vacation or SHTF bugout on a bald ugly stump ridden piece of land? You need firewood dont you?

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In some cases scalped land is a third of the price as before scalping and the hunting habitat is better, especially when you have 3 times as much land. "Scalped" does not mean completely denuded like a moonscape, only the valuable trees were removed.
In my area most private land was logged at one time or another, maybe twice. mine was logged 20 years ago and has quite a few 12-16 inch diameter trees. Having 100 foot tall trees around a homesite is not a good idea. they might fall and hurt your feelings.

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Thanks for the explination... Still in the 'burbs as you can probably tell. I want to purchase some land in the next year or two, but in AZ anything with actual trees on it is obscenely expensive, which is why I'm shocked at the idea of even considering allowing tree removal ;). I want something like 10 acres outside of Pinetop or Prescitt type area if your familiar w/ AZ. Most of the good land with any real trees is located on state / national forrest reserves.

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That's all pretty country but pretty expensive for living in Aztlan.
One reason landowners are willing to thin their timber is fire prevention. I thanked my neighbors when they very selectively logged and burned slash on their 200 acres. "Use it or lose it" is what the locals say. they also know that older trees are more susceptible to diseases that rot the heartwood and destroy timber value.

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Think longer term. That property has all the trees you want, exactly the species you want 20 years from now.

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The region I was speaking of in Michigan has virtually no population,tons of game, and water and trust me, the biggest Minority group is Polish!

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And hell GB...all you have to do is blow the bridge up behind you, and they have to slog all the way through Indiana, Illinois, and Wisconsin just to get there...he-he.!!!

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Right, ideally I'm thinking a few acres of fruit and nut trees near the center of the property (with the home) surrounded by grazing and garden area as (somewhat of) a firebreak from the adjoining timber plots. But that would depend on the topo, soil, access, etc. If the trees aren't yet mature, I'd rather buy them for their current market price (what he'd get to clearcut them) and either have them clearcut when they are or thin them myself over the years, replacing them as I please. I don't expect lumber prices to fall much further and believe they will rebound somewhat in the next decade.

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75k for a half acre cabin is VERY RICHLY priced imo...obviously sight unseen so maybe its amazing who knows...i think theres much better deals out there....

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I wish I had more resources. I love Montana, it was sort of a second home to me growing up. Prices are pretty high compared to wages though. Especially in the Bitterroot Area which is where some of my family lived at the time. I think I would move there if I could. Maybe I still can, I need to do some research and thinking, right quick. This is the year I am taking action whether I stay in this area or relocate.

Speaking of mountain property. I came across an almost ideal property 3-4 years ago in BC. Remote but not too far from civilization and easily defensible. There was only one road in and there were 3 bridges 1-2 of which were made of wood, all on the side of mountains and impossible to pass if the bridge was gone.

Only reason I didn't pull the trigger was that it was right across the road from train tracks and I don't think I would want to put up with the noise or train traffic if TSHTF.

Prepping for TSHTF seems simple enough until you have to put all your chips on the table and pull the trigger then the decisions seem pretty hard.

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The entire Bitterroot Valley is a bit pricey. Also, Ravalli County is a little heavy handed in terms of develpment requirements. I looked long and hard at the lower Valley from Darby up through the West Fork in 2005 and made a couple offers but prices kept going up. Prices have come back down a little. You might also look over the other side of Skalkaho pass in Granite County.

http://www.missoularealestate.com/in...in/ID/7352fcc8

http://gis.mt.gov/